tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31439825.post4880214629130666773..comments2023-04-15T06:37:42.992-07:00Comments on Engage: Conversations in Philosophy: No Justice, No PeaceJoseph Oroscohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04950358209722798820noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31439825.post-14446806002364041532007-06-05T10:36:00.000-07:002007-06-05T10:36:00.000-07:00Thanks for posting this... I always knew Sweden ha...Thanks for posting this... I always knew Sweden had a strange attraction to me.crallspacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00024551175379067957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31439825.post-86061297614701215292007-06-05T03:49:00.000-07:002007-06-05T03:49:00.000-07:00Anonymous: I think that might be the mindset of s...Anonymous: I think that might be the mindset of some immigrants to this country. But I don't see why that has to be in opposition to justice or peace. I don't imagine most immigrants come here to be cut-throat competitors who will do anything to get their own way. I imagine most are just like ordinary people who want to do good for themselves and their families and have sense of community with the people they live among. I don't see that as having to ignore justice, but being about justice. I agree with Dennis on this point.Joseph Oroscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04950358209722798820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31439825.post-84147576428291776722007-06-04T15:47:00.000-07:002007-06-04T15:47:00.000-07:00Also, I can just hear the local conservative colum...Also, I can just hear the local conservative columnist now: 'At least we're better than Iran and Iraq.' <BR/><BR/>As if that's much of an accomplishment here. <BR/><BR/>Heck, <I>China</I> edged us out by 36 spots.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05685035273589091992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31439825.post-13898601806511398942007-06-04T15:44:00.000-07:002007-06-04T15:44:00.000-07:00The GPI might be more accurately called the Global...The GPI might be more accurately called the Global Peace and Justice Index given the various indicators it relies on.<BR/><BR/>Uuuh....Anonymous, what makes you think people don't immigrate to other countries for the same reasons they immigrate here?<BR/><BR/>And since when is prosperity set in opposition to peace and justice? I don't believe those things inherently contradict each other, because if they do, we're in serious trouble.<BR/><BR/>As for the Economist, their point about freeloading security might make sense if not for the last 7 years of US foreign policy. Or would the Economist actually argue that the Iraq debacle has made Europe safer?Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05685035273589091992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31439825.post-31660466824057284062007-06-04T03:44:00.000-07:002007-06-04T03:44:00.000-07:00Isn't American mentality different partly because ...Isn't American mentality different partly because of the type of immigrant America attracts and has always atracted---an immigrant who wants to live the American dream, work hard, get more and more money....etc. or get away from something? Don't these traits persist for generations upon generations, and form a cultural character? And still many immigrants come to this country for the same reason, to financially better themselves. We live in a country of people who want to get rich and climb to the top. Hence our peace/justice rating would be low, as not a top priority here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com